With the season of Fall suddenly upon us, you’ll be forgiven if you forgot that a sequel to the not-quite-Spider-Man movie, Venom, was suddenly out in theaters. That’s right, Venom: Let There Be Carnage is a sequel to the Tom Hardy superhero horror movie Venom. But, this time, there’s a shocking post-credits scene that actually flips everything you thought you knew about how these non-MCU Marvel movies even work at all. Massive spoilers coming at you for Venom 2.
So, in the post-credits scene for Venom: Let There Be Carnage, it’s basically implied that Venom now exists in the MCU. After the symbiote talks a bit about having knowledge that would blow Eddie’s (Tom Hardy) mind, something shifts and we see scenes from the post-credits sequence in Spider-Man: Far From Home. Yep, back in 2019, the MCU movie after Avengers: Endgame, brought J. Jonah Jameson back from the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies, to hassle Tom Holland’s contemporary Spider-Man. This literal revisiting of old Spider-Man movies is going to continue in Spider-Man: No Way Home, which hits theaters on December 17. And, now, it looks like Venom 2 was a low-key set-up for the next MCU spidey-flick, the whole time.
If Venom does appear in the MCU Spider-Man films, it’s an interesting shift. Unlike the MCU, both Venom movies are decidedly not aimed at kids. This isn’t to say that the MCU is exclusively for kids and families. They’re not. But, the darkness and violence and tone of the Venom-verse is very clearly different.
If the squeaky-clean Spider-Man from the MCU is now really part of the Venom-verse (and vice versa) it may make the Spider-Man films more mature. Toning down Venom would be hard. But making Spider-Man a little darker? That seems doable.
Will Venom show up in Spider-Man: No Way Home? We’ll find out on December 17!